Some "and's" are out of your control–couples who have experienced infertility and miscarriages know this well. Sam and Brice Johnson join Tiffany for this very personal episode about their experiences with miscarriage and loss.

They discuss what it's like to experience multiple miscarriages, the effects on their relationship, and how Sam and Tiffany unexpectedly found their careers intertwining in the midst of Sam and Brice's journey toward parenthood.